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| − | This topic is ''not'' about whether you ship them or not but rather about what was actually shown in the game and various materials outside of it. | + | This topic is ''not'' about whether you ship them or not but rather about what was actually shown in the game and various [[:Category:Side_Materials|materials]] outside of it. |
| − | {{quote|'''Q33. What kind of feelings did 9S harbor towards 2B? What kind of feelings did 2B harbor towards 9S?<br/> | + | {{quote|'''''Q33. What kind of feelings did 9S harbor towards 2B? What kind of feelings did 2B harbor towards 9S?''<br/> |
| − | No comment.|[[Yoko Taro]]|Strategy Guide Q&A<ref name="strategy guide q&a">[[Strategy Guide/Q&A with Yoko Taro]]</ref>}} | + | ''No comment.''|[[Yoko Taro]]|Strategy Guide Q&A<ref name="strategy guide q&a">[[Strategy Guide/Q&A with Yoko Taro]]</ref>}} |
This was [[Yoko Taro]]'s answer printed in [[Strategy Guide]] which came out Apr 30, 2017 - before [[ NieR Music Concert: The Memories of Puppets]] and other [[:Category:Side_Materials|materials]] came out. | This was [[Yoko Taro]]'s answer printed in [[Strategy Guide]] which came out Apr 30, 2017 - before [[ NieR Music Concert: The Memories of Puppets]] and other [[:Category:Side_Materials|materials]] came out. | ||
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| + | ==Early Theory== | ||
| + | The popular theory for a long time was that 9S had an internal conflict and a love/hate relationship with 2B thus making everything between them complicated. Where in fact their feelings towards each other were pretty simple - it's the ''circumstances they were trapped in'' were complicated. | ||
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| + | This theory mostly came from an early unfinished Memory Cage translation, [[https://theark.wiki/w/Lore_FAQ#.2A.2A.2A.2A ****]], Soul Box scene, 2B clone fight as well as general stereotypes surrounding the usual hunter/victim themes. | ||
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| + | ==Memory Cage== | ||
| + | With the full translation of [[Memory Cage]], we learned that 9S did ''not'' want to cold-heartedly ''kill'' 2B there (it was his first “life” with 2B too) and it was merely a self-defense which he did not enjoy at all. | ||
| + | {{quote|''"I'm sorry."''<br/> | ||
| + | ''"So it wasn't just a misunderstanding,"'' <br/><br/> | ||
| + | ''"I wish it really were a misunderstanding," he thinks to himself. That 2B was willing to kill him is just too much. With each of his words comes inadvertent changes in his expression and tone, showing small glimpses of his doubts. Though soon, those doubts turn to confidence and that confidence becomes reality.''<br/><br/> | ||
| + | ''"I really didn't want to have to do this ..."''<br/><br/> | ||
| + | ''He didn't hack her solely for the purpose of taking control of her body and killing her. There's something he needed to know, no matter the cost.'' | ||
| + | |9S|Memory Cage<ref name="memory cage">[[Memory Cage]]</ref>}} | ||
| + | And after learning why 2B didn’t kill him right away he dies in peace | ||
| + | {{quote|''He only has a few seconds remaining before his "current self" is crushed by the virus and disappears. He watches helplessly as the white space around him becomes painted over by black.''<br/> | ||
| + | ''"Is this ... it ..."''<br/> | ||
| + | ''The location from which 2B received her orders was from the access point within the desert. There were so many opportunities for her to kill him before they even reached their destination. There was no place to hide, the footing in the sand was terrible, and 2B is easily the better fighter — she had all the advantages in the world. Nevertheless, 2B didn't even attempt to attack him until they were already inside the temple. But 9S was able to see her memories, and find the answer to all of that.''<br/> | ||
| + | ''"2B sure is clumsy ..."''<br/> | ||
| + | ''It was all so she could end it quickly. So 9S could die without realizing what was happening.''<br/> | ||
| + | ''The black spheres fill in the remaining space, leaving no gaps. However, somehow it's a strange and quiet feeling. 9S feels neither fear nor pain.''<br/> | ||
| + | ''"Goodbye, 2B ..."''<br/> | ||
| + | |9S|Memory Cage<ref name="memory cage"/>}} | ||
==Notes== | ==Notes== | ||
<references /> | <references /> | ||
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Revision as of 23:03, 17 November 2017
This topic is not about whether you ship them or not but rather about what was actually shown in the game and various materials outside of it.
Q33. What kind of feelings did 9S harbor towards 2B? What kind of feelings did 2B harbor towards 9S?
No comment.
This was Yoko Taro's answer printed in Strategy Guide which came out Apr 30, 2017 - before NieR Music Concert: The Memories of Puppets and other materials came out.
Early Theory
The popular theory for a long time was that 9S had an internal conflict and a love/hate relationship with 2B thus making everything between them complicated. Where in fact their feelings towards each other were pretty simple - it's the circumstances they were trapped in were complicated.
This theory mostly came from an early unfinished Memory Cage translation, [****], Soul Box scene, 2B clone fight as well as general stereotypes surrounding the usual hunter/victim themes.
Memory Cage
With the full translation of Memory Cage, we learned that 9S did not want to cold-heartedly kill 2B there (it was his first “life” with 2B too) and it was merely a self-defense which he did not enjoy at all.
"I'm sorry."
"So it wasn't just a misunderstanding,"
"I wish it really were a misunderstanding," he thinks to himself. That 2B was willing to kill him is just too much. With each of his words comes inadvertent changes in his expression and tone, showing small glimpses of his doubts. Though soon, those doubts turn to confidence and that confidence becomes reality.
"I really didn't want to have to do this ..."
He didn't hack her solely for the purpose of taking control of her body and killing her. There's something he needed to know, no matter the cost.—9S, Memory Cage[2]
And after learning why 2B didn’t kill him right away he dies in peace
He only has a few seconds remaining before his "current self" is crushed by the virus and disappears. He watches helplessly as the white space around him becomes painted over by black.
"Is this ... it ..."
The location from which 2B received her orders was from the access point within the desert. There were so many opportunities for her to kill him before they even reached their destination. There was no place to hide, the footing in the sand was terrible, and 2B is easily the better fighter — she had all the advantages in the world. Nevertheless, 2B didn't even attempt to attack him until they were already inside the temple. But 9S was able to see her memories, and find the answer to all of that.
"2B sure is clumsy ..."
It was all so she could end it quickly. So 9S could die without realizing what was happening.
The black spheres fill in the remaining space, leaving no gaps. However, somehow it's a strange and quiet feeling. 9S feels neither fear nor pain.
"Goodbye, 2B ..."
—9S, Memory Cage[2]
Notes
